auntysquat - 04 November 2009 09:14 PM

Okay fine. She is here. Don't come whining to me when you miss just about anything that actually happens in the races because we are focused on her charge to 24th from her 26th place starting position.

^^ What if you're wrong? Has the possibility that she may find success in these cars ever occurred to you? The Japanese kid subbing for Glock ran up front right away, despite his fabulous 16th spot in the GP2 ranks, a series that interestingly runs ... 16 cars.

I think she'll do all right. Should we set a standard by which either of us will eat the crow?

GP2 has a larger field than does F1.

And I bet she resembles Erin Crocker in performance.

We'll see who is eating crow come next season. And I'll even spot you a rain shortened race, as I ate my crow this year on Joey's short win.

^ My mistake.

And I bet she doesn't.

I like mine boiled ... no seasoning. No sense in deriving any enjoyment from it whatsoever.

I'll be back later to continue our other conversation. You wimped out.

Lovey-Dovey - 04 November 2009 09:12 PM

auntysquat - 04 November 2009 07:23 PM

Lovey-Dovey - 04 November 2009 06:37 PM

auntysquat - 04 November 2009 05:43 PM

Lovey-Dovey - 04 November 2009 05:14 PM

Talon64 - 04 November 2009 05:09 PM

Whatever Nationwide races she enters will become the ESPN Danica Show for 2-3 hours.

True that. No matter how bad she runs.

BTW, just how much faith would you put in a driver that just signed a three year deal for another team in another series, only to come sign a two year deal with you?

Are you suggesting that she will shirk her contractual obligations in one area in order to fulfill them in another?

Or do you just remain pizzed that she's a girl and she got a ride in a top car?

Not that she is a girl, just another race winning car being driven by one who is not and will not be capable of winning. see also: John Wes Townley/RCR. If she was to put in ten races with , hmm lemme think of a good place to start, let's say the 61, 90/91, 0, 07, 47,01, any of the unfunded teams that could really benefit from the sponsors she could bring, and that might get to race whole races with her money, then I might have absolutely no issue at all with her presence. But if her only contribution is to take up space in a top tier car, and line Hendrick's and Junior's already fat wallets, then count me out.

Fine with me ... you're out. Townley couldn't carry her jock, never mind her helmet bag. Oh, wait ...

Let's do a little role reversal, Mr. D. You've got some considerable seat time in lesser forms of Stock Car racing. Let's equate that to Danica's 81 Indy Car races with 1 victory (albeit a fuel mileage/strategy win believed by many to have been orchestrated by Roger and Chip in order to further their own ambitions), 16 top 5's, 46 top 10's, 3 poles and $5.276 million in on-track earnings in a series that basically pays tow money to everyone who finishes 2nd or worse ... Indy 500 excepted, of course.

For the purposes of this role-reversing conjecture, let us say that your accomplishments at short tracks all over California and Oregon are the equal of her 230 mph blasts down the front stretch at Indianapolis in every way and there is no way to choose between you. A NASCAR Nationwide team owner cannot choose ... he tosses a coin and it's your lucky day.

You consider the offers from the owner and your sponsors, look at the schedule in the ICS and decide that you can indeed make this work. After due deliberation, weighing all the options and looking into your very character, you make your decision.

You reject the offer from the owner whose car, constructed and developed by the venerated HMS organization and driven by a brash newcomer, has battled at the front with two of the best Cup drivers in the garage, in even better Nationwide cars, all season long. Your choice is, of course, to take your bagful of sponsor cash to one of the underfunded teams, barely able to finish races on the lead lap, in order that they might enjoy a modicum of success. You look forward to struggling through the contracted races with inferior equipment, no experience whatsoever in these cars and a less than stellar crew chief and crew without a moment's thought as to the consequences because you know it's the right thing to do.

I salute you, Lovey. You are a man's man. Or a girl's girl, assuming it was tails.

I must let you know something I should have let johnalex in on long ago: long winded tirades that start with a slam on me will seldom get read in the entirety by me.

Other than that, I gotta admit that your johnalex impersonation is spot on.

aww. All that typing and you never read it? Now Im really mad!

^ sometimes I do sometimes I don't.

He read it.

And back to aunty's question, which I never got around to reading all the way through the first time around. Of course I would take the good car. But in her case, since her entire professional career was built on looks first, attitude second, and just enough skill to get by, I just hate seeing one of the very few quality NNWS rides that is not currently driven by a Cup driver being squandered on her. I like a few female racers, she just is not one of them. Katherine Legge and Sarah Fisher, sure, Danica well as Juan Pablo once said "He111111111111 No!"

One question for you Lovey. Wouldn't you rather see her in good equipment and show how she can run rather than is bad equipment and wonder if she would be any good? At least the good equipment will show what she can do and if she could be any good in Stock Cars.

GolEagle - 04 November 2009 10:59 PM

One question for you Lovey. Wouldn't you rather see her in good equipment and show how she can run rather than is bad equipment and wonder if she would be any good? At least the good equipment will show what she can do and if she could be any good in Stock Cars.

Like Shawna Robinson with BAM...
That never had a prayer.

Lovey-Dovey - 04 November 2009 10:56 PM

And back to aunty's question, which I never got around to reading all the way through the first time around. Of course I would take the good car. But in her case, since her entire professional career was built on looks first, attitude second, and just enough skill to get by, I just hate seeing one of the very few quality NNWS rides that is not currently driven by a Cup driver being squandered on her. I like a few female racers, she just is not one of them. Katherine Legge and Sarah Fisher, sure, Danica well as Juan Pablo once said "He111111111111 No!"

Of course you would. I would. No sane person would pass it up. That was the point of all that typing. What I was pounding into the ground was the double standard issue. It doesn't matter if she's a she, a media darling, a one-hit wonder, a talentless hack or anything else as far as I'm concerned. She's a racecar driver no different than the rest. She got herself a shot in a good ride.

I can't wait to see how she does.

BTW, I didn't start out by taking a shot at you, nor was that a tirade. I took the shot at the end of a scenario intended to point out the double standard.

GolEagle hits it.

If she had a bad car, she would have an excuse for a bad performance.

Starting in a decent car, she has to make it or not on her driving ability.

I have no clue if she will adopt or not. if she can do it, great for the series, and if she can't, great for the boards ... can you imagine the hundreds of pages of threads trashing her and saying "Told you so"?