Lovey-Dovey - 02 November 2009 11:56 AM

The NASCAR stars of 1969 had it right all along.... boycott Talladega.

A real cost effective solution would be to use the Infield Road Course at Daytona, and build 150,000 seats around the Talladega Short Track.

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LD for Nascar Prime Minister.

johnalex1273 - 02 November 2009 11:58 AM

Lovey-Dovey - 02 November 2009 11:56 AM

The NASCAR stars of 1969 had it right all along.... boycott Talladega.

A real cost effective solution would be to use the Infield Road Course at Daytona, and build 150,000 seats around the Talladega Short Track.

They boycotted because of the tire, not the speed.

Not really caring their reason, just agreeing that they were right in boycotting. It is what they should do in response to any rule that they do not agree with, as they alone have to live by it.

Shorten the race. Weaken the front bumper to the point that bump drafting will negatively affect the aerodynamics of the car. Beef up the rear bumper so that it doesn't get bent.

Peter, judging by the reaction here, no. I just find it funny that so many people complain that the single file racing (real funny considering that most racing anywhere in Cup is actually single file) was boring, and then when they got in the packs and someone wrecked, that was horrible. Which one is it? Single file = boring and bad or packs = wrecks and bad? Which way should it be?

Thorstar - 02 November 2009 12:12 PM

Peter, judging by the reaction here, no. I just find it funny that so many people complain that the single file racing (real funny considering that most racing anywhere in Cup is actually single file) was boring, and then when they got in the packs and someone wrecked, that was horrible. Which one is it? Single file = boring and bad or packs = wrecks and bad? Which way should it be?

Wrong question

The answer is real racing, where one cannot go flat out all the time. No more invisible rope connecting the cars. That would separate faster drivers from slower drivers. No more packs, and no more single file racing, as the drivers would have the incentive to battle for track position.

Thorstar - 02 November 2009 12:12 PM

Peter, judging by the reaction here, no. I just find it funny that so many people complain that the single file racing (real funny considering that most racing anywhere in Cup is actually single file) was boring, and then when they got in the packs and someone wrecked, that was horrible. Which one is it? Single file = boring and bad or packs = wrecks and bad? Which way should it be?

Twenty some years ago, when Bobby Allison's tire exploded and he ended up tearing down the fence and hurting some fans at 'Dega, NASCAR realized that they needed to do something. They still haven't quite figured out exactly what as of yet.

Lovey-Dovey - 02 November 2009 12:09 PM

johnalex1273 - 02 November 2009 11:58 AM

Lovey-Dovey - 02 November 2009 11:56 AM

The NASCAR stars of 1969 had it right all along.... boycott Talladega.

A real cost effective solution would be to use the Infield Road Course at Daytona, and build 150,000 seats around the Talladega Short Track.

They boycotted because of the tire, not the speed.

Not really caring their reason, just agreeing that they were right in boycotting. It is what they should do in response to any rule that they do not agree with, as they alone have to live by it.

Why do I think that would bring about one of those "NASCAR Hammers". I said somewhere else here, a boycott would never work. The France family motto has always been the sport is bigger than any single driver. Remember Big Bill told the guys in 69 to go home, he didn't beg them to stay. I can imagine Brian would do the same. I could also imagine that there would be a bunch of drivers that would stay regardless. Think Wild Thing. Throw in Busch cars, trucks, ARCA doesn't matter, they'd put on a race, award points, and everyone would be back for the next one.

Thorstar - 02 November 2009 12:17 PM

Lovey-Dovey - 02 November 2009 12:09 PM

johnalex1273 - 02 November 2009 11:58 AM

Lovey-Dovey - 02 November 2009 11:56 AM

The NASCAR stars of 1969 had it right all along.... boycott Talladega.

A real cost effective solution would be to use the Infield Road Course at Daytona, and build 150,000 seats around the Talladega Short Track.

They boycotted because of the tire, not the speed.

Not really caring their reason, just agreeing that they were right in boycotting. It is what they should do in response to any rule that they do not agree with, as they alone have to live by it.

Why do I think that would bring about one of those "NASCAR Hammers". I said somewhere else here, a boycott would never work. The France family motto has always been the sport is bigger than any single driver. Remember Big Bill told the guys in 69 to go home, he didn't beg them to stay. I can imagine Brian would do the same. I could also imagine that there would be a bunch of drivers that would stay regardless. Think Wild Thing. Throw in Busch cars, trucks, ARCA doesn't matter, they'd put on a race, award points, and everyone would be back for the next one.

Back then the drivers were not TV stars with millions of fans. A Cup race today w/o the stars of the sport would be one with very many empty seats.

There are a lot of ways to seperate cars. Dirty them up more. Change the suspension set ups to where you have to actually do work on them, not just push the pedal and go. 2 car teams with no supplying to others. If only 2 cars had Hendrick power and not what 7 or 8, that lessens it quite a bit. Stuff like that.

A big problem today is everyone is so equal. It's not just the shape of the car, it's the teams are all well funded, have new cars, share engines through supplier programs, share cars the same way, crew members jump from team and share knowledge, that kind of thing. Dega is the one track that brings that out the most. Back in the old days, there was a huge gap between the haves and the not-haves, today there isn't that much anywhere (look at qualifying speeds), but especially at Dega. It's the nature of the beast in 2009.

Lovey-Dovey - 02 November 2009 12:22 PM

Thorstar - 02 November 2009 12:17 PM

Lovey-Dovey - 02 November 2009 12:09 PM

johnalex1273 - 02 November 2009 11:58 AM

Lovey-Dovey - 02 November 2009 11:56 AM

The NASCAR stars of 1969 had it right all along.... boycott Talladega.

A real cost effective solution would be to use the Infield Road Course at Daytona, and build 150,000 seats around the Talladega Short Track.

They boycotted because of the tire, not the speed.

Not really caring their reason, just agreeing that they were right in boycotting. It is what they should do in response to any rule that they do not agree with, as they alone have to live by it.

Why do I think that would bring about one of those "NASCAR Hammers". I said somewhere else here, a boycott would never work. The France family motto has always been the sport is bigger than any single driver. Remember Big Bill told the guys in 69 to go home, he didn't beg them to stay. I can imagine Brian would do the same. I could also imagine that there would be a bunch of drivers that would stay regardless. Think Wild Thing. Throw in Busch cars, trucks, ARCA doesn't matter, they'd put on a race, award points, and everyone would be back for the next one.

Back then the drivers were not TV stars with millions of fans. A Cup race today w/o the stars of the sport would be one with very many empty seats.

As a said, not every driver would want to boycott. Kyle would run it, as would probably half the field. And, if they tried, NASCAR would just schedule it in August and the drivers that didn't show up wouldn't get the points. If that was the difference between making the Chase and not, everyone is there.